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Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room

First Added - August 4 2022
Last Updated - August 4 2022 - 0 Data Points Updated - 53 Data Points Added
Reviewed & curated by a panel of garden building experts. Using methodology 1.1

Product ID: SKU: 101749

Size: 17' x 12'

Merchants Checked: 12

Available From: 2

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Good Ranked in the Top 57% of Log Cabins.
Position 518 of 910 Log Cabins - Up 518 places from previous update.
Quality of materials
Construction quality
Ease of construction
Value for money

See how our panel of industry experts helped create the impartial judging criteria used to calculate the Expert Score.

Our verdict on the Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room

The Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room comes with a pent style roof, holds a 5 Years guarantee, and is fit with lockable double doors that use a cylinder locking system. The 4 windows used on this particular 17′ x 12′ use a single glazed glazing material (Thickness was not specified).

Base material: wood

Our experts say this has 6 stand out features. A stand out feature is something found on over 70% of the top 10% of products in a particular category or is an exceptionally good feature as rated by our panel of experts.

1. When looking at cladding material used on the top 10% of all log cabins, interlocking log is used on 98% of them.

2. The 44mm thick cladding used is as thick as the walls found on 80% of the top 10% of log cabins.

3. The tongue & groove construction used for the roof is the same kind you’ll find used across 100% of the top 10% of log cabins.

4. The tongue & groove floor material is a great choice and is what we find being used by 94% of the top 10% of log cabins.

5. The 19mm thick floor boards are the same thickness we see being used on 88% of the top 10% of log cabins.

6. A 19.0mm thick roof construction as thick as this is something our expert rate to be one of the best available on log cabins.

Below is a brief overview of how some of the key points of this log cabin fairs across the market.

Cladding

Outstanding, our experts say most of the cladding options used are among the best.

The interlocking log cladding(walls) used here is the best form of construction for log cabin walls out of the 2 types [1] we’ve identified on same-size log cabins, that you’ll also see getting used on 72% (639 of 893) of all log cabins analysed [2], as well as being used on 98% (87 of 89) of the top 10% of log cabins [3]. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is 5 points below that of the average interlocking log clad 17′ x 12’s (they have an average Expert Score of 87), with it being on 98% of the top 10%, its use here is a reassuring sign of a high quality cladding. You’ll also find the interlocking log cladding showing up on 82% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (105 in total) [4].

The walls are 44mm thick and we rate this the best thickness out of the 8 found on same-size log cabins [5]. It is used on 34% of all log cabins [6] and is also used across 80% of the top 10% of log cabins [7] we analysed. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is 5 points below the average 44mm clad 17′ x 12’s score of 87, the fact that 80% of the top 10% use a cladding this thick is reassuring as a sign of quality. 65% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (83 in total) use 44mm thick walls [8].

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Roofing

Tongue & groove is the cladding used for the roofing, our experts rate this the best form of roof material and is the only type we’ve found on same-size log cabins [9]. This roofing material is used on 64% of all log cabins analysed, and 100% of the top 10% of log cabins. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is 5 points below the average of 87 for 17′ x 12’s using a tongue & groove roofing, with it being on 100% of the top 10%, you can be assured that this is a quality roof material. 84% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (108 in total) use tongue & groove construction for the roof.

A 19.0mm thick roof boarding was used on this log cabin which is the best thickness used for a roofing material out of 4 thicknesses identified on same-size log cabins [10]. It’s used on 7% of all log cabins and 20% of the top 10% of log cabins. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is 5 points below that of the average for 17′ x 12’s that use 19.0mm roofing (82 vs the average of 87), you can be sure it’s not due to the roof thickness as this one of the highest scoring thicknesses available on 17′ x 12′ log cabins. 13% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (17 in total) use a 19.0mm thick roof boarding.

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Flooring

Outstanding, our experts say most of the flooring options used are among the best.

The manufactures of this log cabin chose tongue & groove for the floor construction, we rate this the best form of floor construction and is the only type found on this size of log cabin [11]. This type of floor construction is used on 74% of all log cabins we analysed, and 94% of the top 10% of those log cabins. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is 5 points below the average of 87 for 17′ x 12’s using a tongue & groove flooring, with it being on 94% of the top 10%, you can be assured that this is a quality flooring material. 84% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (108 in total) use tongue & groove construction for the floor.

A 19mm thick floor boarding is used here, this is the best floor board thickness according to our experts out of 5 found on same-size log cabins [12]. It’s found on 39% of all log cabins and used on 88% of the top 10% of log cabins. Even though the Expert Score of this particular log cabin is below the average 17′ x 12’s that use 19mm flooring (82 vs the average of 87), with it being on 88% of the top 10%, this should give you confidence in its quality. 57% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins (73 in total) use 19mm thick floor boarding.

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Window

Single glazed windows come installed on this log cabin. As a glazing option, we rate it an about average out of the 3 glazing types found on 17′ x 12′ log cabins [13]. This particular type of glazing is used on 14% of all windowed log cabins and 21% of the top 10% of log cabins with windows we analysed. 18% of 17′ x 12′ log cabins with windows (23 in total) use single glazed windows.

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Height

The height of this log cabin is 2000.0mm (7′) which is 9% less than the average 17′ x 12′ log cabin, giving you 179.5mm (0.6′) less headroom.

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Doors

The door height is 1,750.00mm (6′) tall which is 7% or 123.64mm (0.4′) shorter than the average 17′ x 12′.
The door width is 1,510.00mm (5′) wide which is 1% or 10.63mm (0.0′) narrower than the average 17′ x 12′.

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You Might Also Consider

We found 128 17′ x 12′ log cabins with comparable specifications. The Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room has an Expert Score that is 6% lower than average and is £42 less expensive than average. If you are looking for the best value or highest expert scoring log cabins out of the 128 with comparable specifications the following might be of interest.

Best value – If you are looking for something comparable that costs less, then you could save £2,699 with this Silver 5m x 3m Log Cabin with Veranda. It is priced at £3,000, this is 90% less than this and has an Expert Score of 82, 0 points equal than the Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room.

Highest Expert Score – With an Expert Score of 95 vs 82 for this product, the Shire Azay 2 4.5m x 4.2m Log Cabin Summerhouse is the best 17′ x 12′ log cabin with comparable specifications, and is priced at £4,299, that’s £1,400 less than the Palmako Lisa 5.1m x 3.8m Log Cabin Garden Room.

High Wind Area – If you live in a particularly exposed or high wind area then having a log cabin with a thicker cladding and higher than average frame thickness can be preferable. We found at least 3 log cabins that have a combination of features that can make them more suited to higher wind areas.
Shire Azay 2 4.5m x 4.2m Log Cabin Summerhouse
Palmako Lea 4.8m x 3.6m Log Cabin Garden Room
Shire Chaumont 4.2m x 5m Log Cabin Summerhouse

Coastal Consideration – If you live in a particularly wet or harsher environment such as by the coast then you might want to consider something with a more robust pressure treatment or something made from metal or plastic, both materials that are particularly suited to such harsh environments. We’ve found at least 3 log cabins that have a combination of features that can make them more suited to higher wind areas.
Shire Azay 2 4.5m x 4.2m Log Cabin Summerhouse
Forest Elmley 5m x 3m Log Cabin Garden Office
Shire Chaumont 4.2m x 5m Log Cabin Summerhouse

Public-Facing – Extra security measures might be more of a concern if you’re placing your building in an area that is more public-facing than a garden. Features such as security windows or even having no windows at all, and the ability to lock all opening doors are usually much more important when you have something that is more public-facing. We found at least 3 log cabins that have options that you might find a better fit if this is a concern you have.
Palmako Lea 4.8m x 3.6m Log Cabin Garden Room
Palmako Bret 5.1m x 3.9m Log Cabin Garden Room
Forest Elmley 5m x 3m Log Cabin Garden Office

More Child Friendly – If you have children and you are looking for something that has that little extra in terms of durability then tougher glazing options might be a better option. Here we have at least 3 other options that will fill those needs.
Palmako Bret 5.1m x 3.9m Log Cabin Garden Room
Forest Elmley 5m x 3m Log Cabin Garden Office
16’x14′ Procas | 44mm Log Cabin

Product Details

Building Type
Garden Offices, Garden Rooms, Large Log Cabins, Large Summer Houses, Log Cabin Garden Offices, Log Cabins, Modern Garden Rooms, Modern Log Cabins, Modern Summer Houses, Summer Houses, Wooden Summer Houses
Metric Size (Meters)
17' x 12'
Material
Wooden
Roof Style
Pent
Number of Windows
4
Door Type
Double Door
Cladding Type
Interlocking Log
Cladding Thickness
44mm
Treatment Type
Untreated
Guarantee
5 Years
Locking System
Cylinder
Floor Material
Tongue & Groove
Glazing Material
Single Glazed
Floor Thickness (Imperial)
19.0mm
Floor Thickness (Metric)
19.0mm
Construction Type
Interlocking Solid Logs
Eaves Height (Imperial)
2000.0mm
Eaves Height (Metric)
2000.0mm
Ridge Height (Imperial)
2340.0mm
Ridge Height (Metric)
2340.0mm
Depth Including Overhang (Imperial)
13'
Depth Including Overhang (Metric)
4000.0mm
Width Including Overhang (Imperial)
18'
Width Including Overhang (Metric)
5500.0mm
Depth At Base (Imperial)
12'
Depth At Base (Metric)
3800.0mm
Height At Highest Point (Imperial)
8'
Height At Highest Point (Metric)
2340.0mm
Door Height (Imperial)
1750.0mm
Door Height (Metric)
1750.0mm
Door Width (Imperial)
1510.0mm
Door Width (Metric)
1510.0mm
Roof Material
Tongue & Groove
Roof Thickness (Imperial)
19.0mm
Roof Thickness (Metric)
19.0mm
Width At Base (Imperial)
17'
Width At Base (Metric)
5300.0mm
Thickness (Imperial)
0.1'
Thickness (Metric)
44.0mm
Packaged Weight
1400kg
Log Cabin Depth
3800mm
Wall Log Thickness (Imperial)
0.1'
Wall Log Thickness (Metric)
44.0mm
Window Size (Metric)
nan x nan
Door Size (Imperial)
6' x 5'
Door Size (Metric)
1750.0mm x 1510.0mm
Height At Lowest Point (Imperial)
7'
Height At Lowest Point (Metric)
2000.0mm

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Joel Bird

Joel Bird

Profile

Our resident shed building expert Joel was the 2014 winner of Channel 4’s Amazing Spaces Shed of the Year having beat over 10,000 applicants to win. He returned to the show the following year as a judge. He is also the author of The Book of Shed and has designed & built over 50 small bespoke garden builds. Joel has appeared on various TV or Radio shows include George Clarkes Amazing Spaces, Alan Titchmarsh Love your Garden, Chris Evans Breakfast Show and BBC Radio 4’s Saturday Live.

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Sources

Merchants Checked

12 different sources were used to research information on this product, and 2 contained information that we were able to use to compile the data used on this page.

The following merchants were checked on the 06 August, 2022 to see if they stocked this product.

Buy Sheds Direct – 1635 products checked, found 1 match.
Shedstore – 1373 products checked, found 1 match.
Waltons – 231 products checked, found no matches.
Wickes – 19576 products checked, found no matches.
B&Q – 78905 products checked, found no matches.
ManoMano UK – 922302 products checked, found no matches.
Wilko.com – 21232 products checked, found no matches.
Homebase – 35509 products checked, found no matches.
sheds.co.uk – 1999 products checked, found no matches.
BillyOh – 1244 products checked, found no matches.
Garden Buildings Direct – 1284 products checked, found no matches.
Tiger Sheds – 635 products checked, found no matches.


1. Untreated: Any wooden structure that is left untreated will have its lifespan dramatically shortened. This is especially the case with Douglas fir or European softwoods such as Whitewood (spruce) or Redwood (Pine), most garden buildings sold in the UK are made from such wood.

The Wood Protection Association says that “the risk of attack increases significantly if the moisture content of wood, for any reason, rises above 20%” they also talk about how more lower durability cuts of wood (known as sapwood) are getting used to build with than in years gone by. They also say that “sapwood on the other hand is a source of food for many species of fungi and insects and is always vulnerable to attack.” This risk is particularly prevalent with European softwoods.

The BS 8417 code of practice (this advises on the choice of timber species and the use and application of wood preservatives) and BS EN 350:2016 (this advises on methods for determining and classifying the durability of wood and wood-based materials against biological wood-destroying agents) says the natural durability class of such European softwoods is between 3 and 5. With class 3 listed as moderately durable, class 4 listed as slightly durable and class 5 listed as not durable. All three classes have a service life of less than 15 years in a frequently wet environment (such as a UK garden). Yet the application of a preservative treatment or modification of lower durability species is designed according to BS8605 part1 (this is the British standards specifications for external timber cladding) to extend service life to 15/30 years or more.

Having a wooden garden structure supplied as untreated is relatively rare. The vast majority of wooden buildings are supplied with some form of basic treatment, usually a short term water based dip treatment. If you buy an untreated wooden building/structure then we strongly advise that you treat it annually with a solvent-based wood treatment. For full penetration it requires 2-3 coats. It is also recommended that you treat the inside of the structure as well.

If you are wanting something that will require much less maintenance throughout the products life cycle then we would strongly suggest looking at something that is pressure treated also known as tanalised timber.

By correctly treating timber you can take a sub 15 year service life for a not very durable European softwood and extend its service life to 15/30 years or more according to the Timber Decking and Cladding Association

2. Cladding types identified: interlocking boards, interlocking log, tongue & groove 

3. Global cladding data sourced from: All interlocking log log cabins 

4. Top cladding data sourced from: Top 89 interlocking log log cabins 

5. 17′ x 12′ cladding data sourced from: 128 17′ x 12′ interlocking log log cabins 

6. Cladding thickness types identified: 28mm, 34mm, 40mm, 44mm, 45mm, 70mm 

7. Global cladding thickness data sourced from: All 44mm log cabins 

8. Top cladding thickness data sourced from: Top 89 44mm log cabins 

9. 17′ x 12′ cladding thickness data sourced from: 83 17′ x 12′ 44mm log cabins 

10. Roof material types identified: tongue & groove 

11. Roof thickness types identified: 16mm, 18mm, 19mm 

12. Floor material types identified: tongue & groove 

13. Floor thickness types identified: 16mm, 18mm, 19mm, 28mm 

14. Glazing material types identified: double glazed, horticultural glass, single glazed, toughened glass, toughened safety glass 

Product ID: SKU: 101749

Size: 17' x 12'

Merchants Checked: 12

Available From: 2

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